[Genealib] RE: Census Relationship
Toms, Pam
pam.toms at ncdcr.gov
Wed Jul 15 12:27:49 EDT 2009
"The 1930 Census: A Reference and Research Guide," page 12 shows a sample of a name entry with the designation "AB" and notes that enumerators were to identify names of family members not present at the time of the census visit with an "AB."
Pam Toms
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1. Genealogy Room Set Up Thanks! (Livingston, Christopher)
2. Census Relationship (Amber Clark)
3. Re: Census Relationship (Sandy Day)
4. Michigan abolishes Dept. of History, Arts and Libraries
(IRENE HANSEN)
5. Re: Michigan abolishes Dept. of History, Arts and Libraries
(James Jeffrey)
6. FW: Library of Michigan (Phyllis Rickard)
7. Re: Census Relationship (Claire Kluskens)
8. Re: Genealogy Room Set-up (Angie Wilderman)
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I want to thank everyone who responded to my request!
Chris
Christopher B. Livingston
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Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2009 14:56:15 -0500
From: "Amber Clark" <aclark at hcpl.org>
Subject: [Genealib] Census Relationship
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Hello, everyone,
I have been wondering about and unsuccessfully searching for a while for a
census abbreviation I do not recognize. I have checked census enumerator
instructions, various books, and several websites with no result, so I am
posting my question here in the hope (and expectation) that some of you will
know.
I am looking for the meaning of the abbreviation "ab" or "AB." In the
records I have seen, the term usually precedes or follows the relationship
of son or daughter. At first I thought that this could mean that the child
was adopted, but can someone tell me definitively what it means? Thanks in
advance for all of your help!
Amber L. Clark
Local History Archivist
Henderson County Public Library
101 South Main Street
Henderson, Kentucky 42420
(270) 826-3712
aclark at hcpl.org
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Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2009 16:13:57 -0400
From: "Sandy Day" <daysa at oplin.org>
Subject: Re: [Genealib] Census Relationship
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Amber
I don't know if this helps but according to my genealogy dictionaries the word Ab is Latin for "from" so maybe it refers to the son or daughter being from (father's name). This is all I could find.
Sandy Day
Genealogy Librarian
Schiappa Library
Steubenville OH
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Hello, everyone,
I have been wondering about and unsuccessfully searching for a while for a census abbreviation I do not recognize. I have checked census enumerator instructions, various books, and several websites with no result, so I am posting my question here in the hope (and expectation) that some of you will know.
I am looking for the meaning of the abbreviation "ab" or "AB." In the records I have seen, the term usually precedes or follows the relationship of son or daughter. At first I thought that this could mean that the child was adopted, but can someone tell me definitively what it means? Thanks in advance for all of your help!
Amber L. Clark
Local History Archivist
Henderson County Public Library
101 South Main Street
Henderson, Kentucky 42420
(270) 826-3712
aclark at hcpl.org
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Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2009 16:17:00 -0500
From: IRENE HANSEN <ihansen at wisc.edu>
Subject: [Genealib] Michigan abolishes Dept. of History, Arts and
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What do you think this really means for the Library of Michigan?
Irene Hansen
Doctoral Student
Reference Librarian, Wisconsin Historical Society
School of Library & Information Studies
University of Wisconsin-Madison
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> Subject: [Genealib] 2009 - ALA Award Recipient
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> Congratulations to Ruth Carr, Chief US History, Local History & Genealogy
> Division, NY Public Library. She received the 2009 ALA RUSA
> Genealogical Pub
> Co Award at the ALA Annual Meeting in Chicago.
>
> See:
> http://www.ala.org/ala/mgrps/divs/rusa/awards/genealogicalpublishing/index.cfm
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> From: "Susan Scouras" <Susan.Scouras at wvculture.org>
> Subject: [Genealib] Michigan abolishes Dept. of History, Arts and
> Libraries
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> >From the Council of State Archivists listserv:
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> Subject: Michigan governor abolishes Department of History, Arts, and
> Libraries
>
> On July 13, 2009, the Governor of Michigan issued Executive Order
> 2009-36 abolishing the Department of History, Arts, and Libraries. The
> State Records Management Program is being transferred to the Department
> of Management and Budget. The State Archives is being transferred to
> the
> Department of Natural Resources.
>
> A message from the Governor about the reorganization is available at
>
>
> http://www.michigan.gov/gov/0,1607,7-168--218072--,00.html
> <
>
> The Executive Order is available at
>
> http://www.michigan.gov/documents/gov/EO36_285881_7.pdf
> <
>
>
> Susan Scouras
> Librarian
> WV Archives and History Library
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Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2009 16:24:21 -0600
From: "James Jeffrey" <jjeffrey at denverlibrary.org>
Subject: Re: [Genealib] Michigan abolishes Dept. of History, Arts and
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Irene and others
Shock and awe tactics! We are living through a very desperate economic climate. This can be interpreted as an attack on education and the intelligentsia or a desperate move to wake up the population.
What does this mean for the material in the Library of Michigan. Hopefully we will hear from librarians, curators and archivists directly involved. Rumors abound as to the disposition of "the books." It can only be hoped that the baby is not thrown out with the bath water.
let us hope that the material is moth balled instead of being disposed.
James K. Jeffrey
Collection Specialist in Genealogy
Western History and Genealogy
Denver Public Library
>>> IRENE HANSEN <ihansen at wisc.edu> 7/14/2009 3:17 PM >>>
What do you think this really means for the Library of Michigan?
Irene Hansen
Doctoral Student
Reference Librarian, Wisconsin Historical Society
School of Library & Information Studies
University of Wisconsin-Madison
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> Congratulations to Ruth Carr, Chief US History, Local History & Genealogy
> Division, NY Public Library. She received the 2009 ALA RUSA
> Genealogical Pub
> Co Award at the ALA Annual Meeting in Chicago.
>
> See:
> http://www.ala.org/ala/mgrps/divs/rusa/awards/genealogicalpublishing/index.cfm
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> Subject: [Genealib] Michigan abolishes Dept. of History, Arts and
> Libraries
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> >From the Council of State Archivists listserv:
>
> Subject: Michigan governor abolishes Department of History, Arts, and
> Libraries
>
> On July 13, 2009, the Governor of Michigan issued Executive Order
> 2009-36 abolishing the Department of History, Arts, and Libraries. The
> State Records Management Program is being transferred to the Department
> of Management and Budget. The State Archives is being transferred to
> the
> Department of Natural Resources.
>
> A message from the Governor about the reorganization is available at
>
>
> http://www.michigan.gov/gov/0,1607,7-168--218072--,00.html
> <
>
> The Executive Order is available at
>
> http://www.michigan.gov/documents/gov/EO36_285881_7.pdf
> <
>
>
> Susan Scouras
> Librarian
> WV Archives and History Library
> The Cultural Center
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> Charleston, WV 25305-0300
> (304) 558-0230, Ext. 742
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Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2009 18:31:53 -0400
From: "Phyllis Rickard" <prickard at monroe.lib.mi.us>
Subject: [Genealib] FW: Library of Michigan
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Granholm Announces Conceptual Plan for Michigan Center for Innovation and
Reinvention
_____
July 13, 2009
Potential partnership with MSU, Lansing outlined in HAL executive order
LANSING - Governor Jennifer M. Granholm today announced conceptual plans for
a Michigan Center for Innovation and Reinvention (MCIR) in downtown Lansing
that would help equip Michigan citizens for the knowledge-based economy
through entrepreneurial and innovative programs.
The governor is establishing a Michigan Center for Innovation and Renovation
Board to examine the establishment of the new center that would be a
transformed Michigan Library and Historical Center through a partnership
with Michigan State University, the city of Lansing and other appropriate
public and private partners. The board is outlined in Executive Order
2009-36 that abolishes the Department of History, Arts and Libraries and
transfers that department's functions to various other state departments,
agencies and commissions.
"The MCIR would be another step forward in our ongoing efforts to make
Michigan competitive in a global economy," Granholm said. "The center would
draw upon Michigan's rich history of entrepreneurship for lessons to help
stimulate the innovations needed for today's knowledge-based economy."
The MCIR would have several objectives, which would include promoting
understanding of state history and the cultural diversity of Michigan
citizens; educating children and adults in science, technology, engineering
and mathematics; and enhancing the competitiveness of Michigan citizens in
the world economy through research and education.
"The concept of MCIR is a modern vision for a modern Michigan," said
Michigan State University President Lou Anna K. Simon. "As we weather
extreme economic distress across our state, it's important we work together
in new ways to promote the transformation of Michigan to a knowledge-based
economy. The MCIR is a blend of technology and culture, and I'm excited
about the opportunity the board affords to discuss refinement of the
center's vision and its promise of drawing future generations to the heart
of Michigan to learn about our state's history of reinvention through
innovation."
"The challenges of today's economy are driving all of us to explore new ways
to streamline and reinvent government," said Lansing Mayor Virg Bernero.
"By facing these challenges with vision, creativity and determination, we
can put Michigan in position for a strong economic recovery and secure a
more prosperous future for our citizens. I certainly appreciate the
governor's invitation to be part of that process."
Nine members will form the Michigan Center for Innovation and Reinvention
Board: the director of the Department of Natural Resources, superintendent
of public instruction and seven gubernatorial appointees. Three of the
members selected by the governor will be from a list of candidates nominated
by President Simon, and a fourth will be from a list of candidates nominated
by Mayor Bernero. The board will issue its final report to the governor by
June 1, 2010.
"Just like private sector employers who are reducing divisions and
administrative overhead to achieve greater efficiencies, state government
continues to do so as well," Granholm said. "Functions of the Department of
History, Arts and Libraries will move to other areas of state government
performing similar duties."
Elimination of the Department of History, Arts and Libraries implements the
governor's 2010 executive budget recommendation that included reforms,
spending cuts and revenue enhancements to balance the state budget that
begins October 1.
The department's abolition is also part of an ongoing effort to streamline
state government. This will be the third state department eliminated during
the Granholm administration, plus more than 150 state boards and
commissions. Lt. Governor John D. Cherry Jr., at the governor's request, is
leading an even broader review of state government that could eventually
result in the number of state departments being reduced to eight.
The executive order will transfer:
- The Michigan Council for Arts and Cultural Affairs to the Michigan
Strategic Fund;
- Library of Michigan functions (except those related to the blind and
physically handicapped) to the Department of Education and require the
department to evaluate and implement additional cost saving measures;
- Library services for the blind and physically handicapped to the Michigan
Commission for the Blind;
- Census reporting and related statistical functions to the Department of
Information Technology;
- State records management functions to the Department of Management and
Budget;
- The State Historic Preservation Review Board and Idlewild Centennial
Commission to the Michigan State Housing Development Authority;
- The Michigan Historical Commission, including museum facilities,
archives, historical records and related functions, to the Department of
Natural Resources (DNR) and require the DNR to evaluate and implement
additional cost saving measures.
- Also transferring to the DNR will be:
- Mackinac Island State Park Commission
- Michigan Commission on the Commemoration of the Bicentennial of the War
of 1812
- Michigan Freedom Trail Commission
- Michigan Heritage Water Trail Program
- Michigan Iron Industry Museum Advisory Board
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Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2009 18:50:22 -0400
From: Claire Kluskens <cpklus-genelib at yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [Genealib] Census Relationship
To: Librarians Serving Genealogists <genealib at mailman.acomp.usf.edu>
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Amber,
Can you please tell us which census year, and cite an example that we
can all go look at (a family name, township, county, state, and ED
and page number (if 1880 or later) would be helpful).
Thanks,
Claire Kluskens
National Archives and Records Administration
Washington, DC
On Jul 14, 2009, at 3:56 PM, Amber Clark wrote:
> Hello, everyone,
>
>
>
> I have been wondering about and unsuccessfully searching for a
> while for a census abbreviation I do not recognize. I have checked
> census enumerator instructions, various books, and several websites
> with no result, so I am posting my question here in the hope (and
> expectation) that some of you will know.
>
>
>
> I am looking for the meaning of the abbreviation ?ab? or ?AB.? In
> the records I have seen, the term usually precedes or follows the
> relationship of son or daughter. At first I thought that this could
> mean that the child was adopted, but can someone tell me
> definitively what it means? Thanks in advance for all of your help!
>
>
>
> Amber L. Clark
>
> Local History Archivist
>
> Henderson County Public Library
>
> 101 South Main Street
>
> Henderson, Kentucky 42420
>
> (270) 826-3712
>
> aclark at hcpl.org
>
>
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Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2009 22:10:00 -0400
From: Angie Wilderman <agwilderman at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Genealib] Genealogy Room Set-up
To: sharonf_corey at yahoo.com, Librarians Serving Genealogists
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Sharon, I was at the DAR library Wed. Thurs., Fri., and Sat. last week. It
is wonderful.
On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 7:53 AM, <sharonf_corey at yahoo.com> wrote:
> I agree with Kate Stirk as well.
>
> My personal favorite is the DAR Library. Now this is a library that I would
> like to do a sleep-over in.
>
> DAR Info for Beginners <http://www.dar.org/library/beginners.cfm#info>
>
> - Sharon F. Corey
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