[Genealib] Re: DAR and other lineage
society
Sutton, Linda
suttonl at oakgov.com
Thu Sep 11 14:04:06 EDT 2008
I did not mean to spark this thread but it has been interesting.
My grandmother, great aunt, and great grandmother were DAR
members starting in the 1930's. My mother was in the C.A.R.
during the 1940's. It is possible that the documentation was
incomplete; thus the having to reprove the documentation. I do
know that in doing my genealogy some of the female lines have me
at a brick wall.
My mother is no longer interested in joining; and at this point
in my life I am too busy with other interests so have not pursued
it.
Linda Sutton
---- Original message ----
Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2008 06:50:08 -0700 (PDT)
From: Ruth MF Tucker <rutucker at yahoo.com>
Subject: [Genealib] Re: DAR and other lineage society
To: genealib at mailman.acomp.usf.edu
I have been following this discussion and want to clarify a few
things. It is not true that you can't link to an approved
application for DAR and other lineage societies. The problem
is that many of the applications approved prior to about 1985
or later contained no documentation. The application was
approved on a notorized statement from the applicatant that all
the data was correct. Many of these older applications
contained incorrect information and that is the reason for the
requirement now that older applications must be redocumented if
you wish to link to them.
If it is a well documented application, there is no problem
linking to it and then not needing to provide the documentation
that is already on file with the organization.
C.A.R. and DAR (notice forrect placement of periods!) have
similar requirements. I can't speak for SAR but if the
documents are provided copies could be obtained. I don't think
DAR will allow linking to a SAR application.
Ruth M.F. Tucker
NEIGS librarian
Iowa
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Message: 1
Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2008 11:03:16 -0500
From: "Carol Bartlett" <cbartlet at eapl.org>
Subject: RE: [Genealib] Flash: SSDI now free on GenealogyBank
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My concern would be that you have no link to the SS-5 letter
that could
bring additional information for a difficult research subject.
Carol Bartlett
Ela Area Public Library
275 Mohawk Trail
Lake Zurich, IL 60047
cbartlet at eapl.org
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Subject: [Genealib] Flash: SSDI now free on GenealogyBank
There is only ONE complete, up-to-date SSDI site online
&
GenealogyBank just made it free to everyone.
It is the best SSDI site on the planet.
Period.
Search it at: http://www.genealogybank.com/gbnk/ssdi.html
Book mark it; link to it; use it.
It's all yours.
It is the ONLY SSDI site updated weekly.
GenealogyBank is celebrating two birthdays - Ida May Fuller's
134th
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She
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Message: 2
Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2008 12:07:23 -0400
From: "Tom Kemp" <thomas.j.kemp at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Genealib] Flash: SSDI now free on GenealogyBank
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That would be a good suggestion.
I'll look into it.
On Wed, Sep 10, 2008 at 12:03 PM, Carol Bartlett
<cbartlet at eapl.org> wrote:
> My concern would be that you have no link to the SS-5 letter
that could
> bring additional information for a difficult research
subject.
>
> Carol Bartlett
> Ela Area Public Library
> 275 Mohawk Trail
> Lake Zurich, IL 60047
> cbartlet at eapl.org
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: genealib-bounces at mailman.acomp.usf.edu
> [mailto:genealib-bounces at mailman.acomp.usf.edu] On Behalf Of
Tom Kemp
> Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2008 7:52 AM
> To: Librarians Serving Genealogists
> Subject: [Genealib] Flash: SSDI now free on GenealogyBank
>
> There is only ONE complete, up-to-date SSDI site online &
> GenealogyBank just made it free to everyone.
>
> It is the best SSDI site on the planet.
> Period.
>
> Search it at: http://www.genealogybank.com/gbnk/ssdi.html
>
> Book mark it; link to it; use it.
> It's all yours.
>
> It is the ONLY SSDI
site updated weekly.
>
> GenealogyBank is celebrating two birthdays - Ida May Fuller's
134th
> birthday - she was born 6 Sep 1874 and died at age 100 in
1975. She
> was America's first Social Security recipient. ..... And we
are also
> getting a head start on GenealogyBank's birthday - on Oct
18th we will
> celebrate our 2nd Anniversary.
>
> So - to celebrate GenealogyBank has made - the best SSDI site
on the
> planet - free to all researchers.
>
> Read all about it at:
>
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Message: 3
Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2008 11:20:37 -0500
From: "Sarah Kirby" <SKirby at environcorp.com>
Subject: RE: [Genealib] History of American genealogy
To: <genealib at mailman.acomp.usf.edu>
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There are a number of societies that focus on research in the
U.K. Some
may organize trips.
Here's a list of some societies from Cyndi's List (not all are
U.S.-based) - http://www.cyndislist.com/genuk.htm#Societies
The three most prominent U.S.-based societies IMHO are:
ISBGFH - Int'l Soc for British Gen & Fam Hist -
http://www.isbgfh.org/
BIGWILL - British Interest Grp of WI and IL -
http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~wiilbig/
BIFHSUSA - British Isles Family Hist Soc - U.S.A. -
http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~bifhsusa/
Paul Milner is a regular speaker on U.K. research at large (and
small)
U.S. conferences.
His bio/curricula vitae on AncestorDetective -
http://www.ancestordetective.com/speakers/milner.htm
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Subject:
Dear all,
I wonder if anyone could help me. I am currently undertaking
doctoral
research into the history of genealogical research at Glasgow
University. I am particularly interested in the history of
American
genealogical research and its links with British archives.
Can anyone recommend any sources where I can find out more
about:
a) the history of American genealogical research in general
b) the history of Goodspeed publishing company
c) any Americans that have particularly contributed to British
genealogical research
I would also be interested if anyone regularly directs patrons
to
British archives and/or if anyone knows of any local groups
that
organize trips to visit British archives
I would
be grateful if you could reply off list to:
hannahmlittle at googlemail.com
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Message: 4
Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2008 13:10:54 -0400
From: "Joy Rich" <joyrichny at earthlink.net>
Subject: Re: [Genealib] Flash: SSDI now free on GenealogyBank
To: "Genealib" <genealib at mailman.acomp.usf.edu>
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Deb, see "Social Security Death Index: Missing Entries" at
http://helpdesk.rootsweb.com/ssdi/missing.html . And at
http://helpdesk.rootsweb.com/ssdi/index.html#reasons , reasons
for non-inclusion are
listed. "Reporting Inaccurate Entries" (or non-entries) is
explained at
http://helpdesk.rootsweb.com/ssdi/errors.html .
Joy Rich
Brooklyn, NY
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Message: 8
Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2008 08:02:54 -0500
From: "Anderson, Debra" <andersod at uwgb.edu>
Subject: RE: [Genealib] Flash: SSDI now free on GenealogyBank
To: 'Librarians Serving Genealogists'
<genealib at mailman.acomp.usf.edu>
Hmmm! If it is up to date, my father's info should be in there
and it is not....no matter
what search strategies are tried. He died in 2006.
Deb Anderson
Green Bay Wisconsin
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Message: 5
Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2008 10:15:51 -0700 (PDT)
From: Debbie Duay <dlduay at yahoo.com>
Subject: [Genealib] DAR & SAR Free Online Tutorial
To: genealib at mailman.acomp.usf.edu
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Feel
free to refer anyone interested in joining either the DAR or
SAR to the following free online tutorial. It provides a
step-by-step procedure for finding a Revolutionary War patriot
ancestor and documenting the lineage to that ancestor.
Researching Your Revolutionary War Patriot Ancestor
http://www.learnwebskills.com/patriot
Debbie Duay
dlduay at yahoo.com
http://www.learnwebskills.com/patriot/debbieduay.htm
___________________________
Date: Tue, 9 Sep 2008 17:01:27 -0400
From: "Wanda Hunter" <whunter at cumberland.lib.nc.us>
Subject: [Genealib] DAR
To: <genealib at mailman.acomp.usf.edu>
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Do any of you have handouts with resources that you give to
customers who are trying to get into the DAR or SAR? Would you
please share.
Thanks.
Wanda Hunter
Local & State History Manager
Cumberland County Public Library & Information Center
300 Maiden Ln
Fayetteville, NC 28301-5000
910-483-7727, ext. 309
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Message: 6
Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2008 11:35:49 -0700 (PDT)
From: Dave Fiske <dfiskehiker at yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [Genealib] Flash: SSDI now free on GenealogyBank
To: Librarians Serving Genealogists
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This is the Social
Security Administration's explanation of what
records are in the SSDI. (From
http://www.ssa.gov/history/hfaq.html)
"The Death Index contains a listing of persons who had a Social
Security number, who are deceased, and whose death was reported
to the Social Security Administration. (The information in the
Death Index for people who died prior to 1962 is sketchy since
SSA's death information was not automated before that date.
Death information for persons who died before 1962 is generally
only in the Death Index if the death was actually reported to
SSA after 1962, even though the death occurred prior to that
year.)"
David Fiske
--- On Wed, 9/10/08, Dick Eastman <richard at eastman.net> wrote:
> From: Dick Eastman <richard at eastman.net>
> Subject: Re: [Genealib] Flash: SSDI now free on GenealogyBank
> To: "Sutton, Linda" <suttonl at oakgov.com>, "Librarians Serving
Genealogists" <genealib at mailman.acomp.usf.edu>
> Date: Wednesday, September 10, 2008, 10:01 AM
> ---> If there was no death payout the SSDI will not
> include their name.
>
> Not true. That might have been true once but has not been
> true for
> some time. My 15-year-old son had no payout on his death in
> 1994 but
> he is listed in the SSDI. So are thousands of other
> children who died
> and we can assume that 99% of them had no pay-outs.
>
> - Dick Eastman
>
> On
Wed, Sep 10, 2008 at 9:47 AM, Sutton, Linda
> <suttonl at oakgov.com> wrote:
> > If there was no death payout the SSDI will not include
> their name. I believe
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Message: 7
Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2008 18:15:21 -0400
From: mrarchive at aol.com
Subject: Re: [Genealib] DAR
To: genealib at mailman.acomp.usf.edu
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Hi:
Actually DAR and SAR requirements are NOT THE
SAME.? Often time in SAR you are allowed to join on your Father
or Grandfather?? but in DAR you must re-prove each Step..
Record copies of SAR application that have been approved are
usually questioned and not accepted by the DAR? in these later
years.. It is still the wiser decision to contact the National
Organizations eac.. individually? www.SAR.ORG? for the updated
versions. Steve
-----Original Message-----
From: Nancy Miller <NMiller at vbgov.com>
To: Librarians Serving Genealogists
<genealib at mailman.acomp.usf.edu>
Sent: Wed, 10 Sep 2008 8:11 am
Subject: RE: [Genealib] DAR
SAR's requirements are the same as DAR except you only have to
prove the
bloodline back to the patriot.
Nancy
Nancy M. Miller,
MSLS
Collection Development Librarian
Virginia Beach Public Library
4100 Virginia Beach Blvd.
Virginia Beach, VA 23452-1767
757-385-0163
757-431-3741 FAX
nmiller at vbgov.com
vbgov.com/libraries
-----Original Message-----
From: genealib-bounces at mailman.acomp.usf.edu
[mailto:genealib-bounces at mailman.acomp.usf.edu] On Behalf Of
Nancy
Maxwell
Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2008 5:29 PM
To: genealib at mailman.acomp.usf.edu
Subject: Re: [Genealib] DAR
Wanda, I don't have handouts, but I normally refer potential
members to
the local DAR chapter and give them the excellent DAR web site
because
the Society has specific procedures and requirements for
membership. I
haven't been asked about SAR membership yet.
Nancy Kouyoumjian Maxwell, Genealogy Librarian
Frances Pittman Malcolm Genealogy Room
Grapevine Public Library
1201 Municipal Way
Grapevine, TX 76051
Voice: 817-410-3429
Fax: 817-410-3084
E-mail: nmaxwell at grapevinetexas.gov
"The cure for boredom is curiosity. There is no cure for
curiosity."
~Dorothy Parker
>>> "Wanda Hunter" <whunter at cumberland.lib.nc.us> 9/9/2008 4:01
PM >>>
Do any of you have handouts with resources that you give to
customers
who are trying to get into the
DAR or SAR? Would you please share.
Thanks.
Wanda Hunter
Local & State History Manager
Cumberland County Public Library & Information Center
300 Maiden Ln
Fayetteville, NC 28301-5000
910-483-7727, ext. 309
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Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2008 08:29:06 -0400
From: "Nancy Miller" <NMiller at vbgov.com>
Subject: RE: [Genealib] DAR
To: "Librarians Serving Genealogists"
<genealib at mailman.acomp.usf.edu>
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I am a DAR member and have been Registrar for my chapter,
having helped
oodles of ladies complete their applications. I have also
attended a
week long, intensive training session at DAR on the
requirements for
completing applications and conduct workshops on how to join
DAR.
You do not have to re-prove generations that have already been
documented. You can just refer to the DAR National number of
the person
that you are related to and that will suffice for
documentation. I
It is true that DAR will not accept SAR applications as
documentation.
Nancy
Nancy M. Miller, MSLS
Collection Development Librarian
Virginia Beach Public Library
4100 Virginia Beach
Blvd.
Virginia Beach, VA 23452-1767
757-385-0163
757-431-3741 FAX
nmiller at vbgov.com <mailto:nmiller at vbgov.com>
vbgov.com/libraries
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From: genealib-bounces at mailman.acomp.usf.edu
[mailto:genealib-bounces at mailman.acomp.usf.edu] On Behalf Of
mrarchive at aol.com
Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2008 6:15 PM
To: genealib at mailman.acomp.usf.edu
Subject: Re: [Genealib] DAR
Hi:
Actually DAR and SAR requirements are NOT THE SAME. Often time
in SAR
you are allowed to join on your Father or Grandfather but in
DAR you
must re-prove each Step.. Record copies of SAR application that
have
been approved are usually questioned and not accepted by the
DAR in
these later years.. It is still the wiser decision to contact
the
National Organizations eac.. individually www.SAR.ORG for the
updated
versions. Steve
-----Original Message-----
From: Nancy Miller <NMiller at vbgov.com>
To: Librarians Serving Genealogists
<genealib at mailman.acomp.usf.edu>
Sent: Wed,
10 Sep 2008 8:11 am
Subject: RE: [Genealib] DAR
SAR's requirements are the same as DAR except you only have to
prove the
bloodline back to the patriot.
Nancy
Nancy M. Miller, MSLS
Collection Development Librarian
Virginia Beach Public Library
4100 Virginia Beach Blvd.
Virginia Beach, VA 23452-1767
757-385-0163
757-431-3741 FAX
nmiller at vbgov.com
vbgov.com/libraries
-----Original Message-----
From: genealib-bounces at mailman.acomp.usf.edu
[mailto:genealib-bounces at mailman.acomp.usf.edu
<mailto:genealib-bounces at mailman.acomp.usf.edu?> ] On Behalf Of
Nancy
Maxwell
Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2008 5:29 PM
To: genealib at mailman.acomp.usf.edu
Subject: Re: [Genealib] DAR
Wanda, I don't have handouts, but I normally refer potential
members to
the local DAR chapter and give them the excellent DAR web site
because
the Society has specific procedures and requirements for
membership. I
haven't been asked about SAR membership yet.
Nancy Kouyoumjian Maxwell, Genealogy Librarian
Frances Pittman Malcolm Genealogy Room
Grapevine Public Library
1201 Municipal Way
Grapevine, TX 76051
Voice: 817-410-3429
Fax: 817-410-3084
E-mail: nmaxwell at grapevinetexas.gov
"The cure for boredom is curiosity. There is no cure for
curiosity."
~Dorothy Parker
>>> "Wanda Hunter" <whunter at cumberland.lib.nc.us> 9/9/2008 4:01
PM >>>
Do any of you have handouts with resources that you give to
customers
who are trying to get into the DAR or SAR? Would you please
share.
Thanks.
Wanda Hunter
Local & State History Manager
Cumberland County Public Library & Information Center
300 Maiden Ln
Fayetteville, NC 28301-5000
910-483-7727, ext. 309
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Message: 9
Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2008 09:24:21 -0400 (EDT)
From: "Sutton, Linda" <suttonl at oakgov.com>
Subject: RE: [Genealib] DAR
To: Librarians Serving Genealogists
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Interesting, my mother, who was a CAR
(Children of the American
Revolution) was told that she would have to reprove her CAR
application to become a DAR; even though her mother, aunt,
and
grandmother had been members of the DAR and their membership
numbers were on her application. She was upset about that and
has
not attempted to join since and at her age may never do so.
Does this vary by state or chapter?
Linda Sutton
---- Original message ----
Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2008 08:29:06 -0400
From: "Nancy Miller" <NMiller at vbgov.com>
Subject: RE: [Genealib] DAR
To: "Librarians Serving Genealogists"
<genealib at mailman.acomp.usf.edu>
I am a DAR member and have been Registrar
for my chapter, having helped oodles of ladies complete
their
applications. I have also attended a week long, intensive
training
session at DAR on the requirements for completing
applications
and conduct
workshops on how to join DAR.
You do not have to re-prove generations
that have already been documented. You can just refer to
the
DAR National
number of the person that you are related to and that will
suffice for
documentation. I
It is true that DAR will not accept SAR
applications as
documentation.
Nancy
Nancy M. Miller, MSLS
Collection Development Librarian
Virginia Beach Public
Library
4100 Virginia Beach
Blvd.
Virginia Beach, VA 23452-1767
757-385-0163
757-431-3741 FAX
nmiller at vbgov.com
vbgov.com/libraries
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Of
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Sent: Wednesday, September 10,
2008 6:15 PM
To: genealib at mailman.acomp.usf.edu
Subject: Re: [Genealib] DAR
Hi:
Actually DAR and SAR requirements are NOT THE SAME. Often
time
in SAR you
are allowed to join on your Father or Grandfather but in
DAR
you
must re-prove each Step.. Record copies of SAR application
that
have been
approved are usually questioned and not accepted by the
DAR
in
these
later years.. It is still the wiser decision to contact the
National
Organizations eac.. individually www.SAR.ORG
for the updated versions. Steve
-----Original Message-----
From: Nancy Miller <NMiller at vbgov.com>
To: Librarians Serving Genealogists
<genealib at mailman.acomp.usf.edu>
Sent: Wed, 10 Sep 2008 8:11 am
Subject: RE: [Genealib] DAR
SAR's requirements are the same as DAR except you only have to
prove the
bloodline back to the patriot.
Nancy
Nancy M. Miller, MSLS
Collection Development Librarian
Virginia
Beach Public Library
4100 Virginia Beach Blvd.
Virginia Beach, VA 23452-1767
757-385-0163
757-431-3741 FAX
nmiller at vbgov.com
vbgov.com/libraries
-----Original Message-----
From: genealib-bounces at mailman.acomp.usf.edu
[mailto:genealib-bounces at mailman.acomp.usf.edu] On Behalf Of
Nancy
Maxwell
Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2008 5:29 PM
To: genealib at mailman.acomp.usf.edu
Subject: Re: [Genealib] DAR
Wanda, I don't have handouts, but I normally refer
potential members to
the local DAR chapter and give them the excellent DAR web site
because
the Society has specific procedures and requirements for
membership. I
haven't been asked about SAR membership yet.
Nancy Kouyoumjian Maxwell, Genealogy Librarian
Frances Pittman Malcolm Genealogy Room
Grapevine Public Library
1201 Municipal Way
Grapevine, TX 76051
Voice: 817-410-3429
Fax: 817-410-3084
E-mail: nmaxwell at grapevinetexas.gov
"The cure for boredom is curiosity. There is no cure for
curiosity."
~Dorothy Parker
>>> "Wanda Hunter" <whunter at cumberland.lib.nc.us> 9/9/2008 4:01
PM >>>
Do any of
you have handouts with resources that you give to customers
who are trying to get into the DAR or SAR? Would you please
share.
Thanks.
Wanda Hunter
Local & State History Manager
Cumberland County Public Library & Information Center
300 Maiden Ln
Fayetteville, NC 28301-5000
910-483-7727, ext. 309
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From: "Nancy Miller" <NMiller at vbgov.com>
Subject: RE: [Genealib] DAR
To: "Sutton, Linda" <suttonl at oakgov.com>, "Librarians
Serving
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No, this does not vary by state or chapter
I don't know what year she attempted to join. Perhaps that
made a
difference, but that would not be the case now. Her CAR
application,
however, I believe would not be accepted as documentation. I'd
have to
double check that for sure.
The Registrar of the Chapter she wanted to join should have
helped her
fill out a DAR application using the National Numbers of any
relative
where the generations had been proved as documentation. Other
generations would have to be documented.
Nancy
Nancy M. Miller, MSLS
Collection Development Librarian
Virginia Beach Public Library
4100 Virginia Beach Blvd.
Virginia
Beach, VA 23452-1767
757-385-0163
757-431-3741 FAX
nmiller at vbgov.com <mailto:nmiller at vbgov.com>
vbgov.com/libraries
________________________________
From: genealib-bounces at mailman.acomp.usf.edu
[mailto:genealib-bounces at mailman.acomp.usf.edu] On Behalf Of
Sutton,
Linda
Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2008 9:24 AM
To: Librarians Serving Genealogists
Subject: RE: [Genealib] DAR
Interesting, my mother, who was a CAR (Children of the American
Revolution) was told that she would have to reprove her CAR
application
to become a DAR; even though her mother, aunt, and grandmother
had been
members of the DAR and their membership numbers were on her
application.
She was upset about that and has not attempted to join since
and at her
age may never do so.
Does this vary by state or chapter?
Linda Sutton
---- Original message ----
Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2008 08:29:06 -0400
From: "Nancy Miller" <NMiller at vbgov.com>
Subject: RE: [Genealib] DAR
To: "Librarians Serving Genealogists"
<genealib at mailman.acomp.usf.edu>
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I am a DAR member and have been Registrar
for my chapter, having helped oodles of ladies complete
their
applications. I have also attended a week long, intensive
training
session at DAR
on the requirements for completing applications
and conduct
workshops on how to join DAR.
You do not have to re-prove generations
that have already been documented. You can just refer to
the
DAR National
number of the person that you are related to and that will
suffice for
documentation. I
It is true that DAR will not accept SAR
applications as documentation.
Nancy
Nancy M.
Miller, MSLS
Collection Development Librarian
Virginia Beach Public
Library
4100 Virginia Beach
Blvd.
Virginia Beach, VA 23452-1767
757-385-0163
757-431-3741 FAX
nmiller at vbgov.com <mailto:nmiller at vbgov.com>
vbgov.com/libraries
________________________________
From:
genealib-bounces at mailman.acomp.usf.edu
[mailto:genealib-bounces at mailman.acomp.usf.edu] On Behalf
Of
mrarchive at aol.com
Sent: Wednesday, September 10,
2008 6:15 PM
To: genealib at mailman.acomp.usf.edu
Subject: Re: [Genealib] DAR
Hi:
Actually DAR and SAR requirements are
NOT THE SAME. Often time
in SAR you
are allowed to join on your Father or Grandfather but in
DAR
you
must re-prove each Step.. Record copies of SAR application
that
have been
approved are usually questioned and not accepted by the
DAR in
these
later years.. It is still the wiser decision to contact the
National
Organizations eac.. individually www.SAR.ORG
for the updated versions. Steve
-----Original Message-----
From: Nancy Miller <NMiller at vbgov.com>
To: Librarians Serving Genealogists
<genealib at mailman.acomp.usf.edu>
Sent: Wed, 10 Sep 2008 8:11 am
Subject: RE: [Genealib] DAR
SAR's requirements are the same as DAR except you only have
to
prove the
bloodline back to the patriot.
Nancy
Nancy M. Miller, MSLS
Collection Development Librarian
Virginia Beach Public Library
4100 Virginia Beach Blvd.
Virginia Beach, VA 23452-1767
757-385-0163
757-431-3741 FAX
nmiller at vbgov.com
vbgov.com/libraries
-----Original Message-----
From: genealib-bounces at mailman.acomp.usf.edu
[mailto:genealib-bounces at mailman.acomp.usf.edu
<mailto:genealib-bounces at mailman.acomp.usf.edu?> ] On Behalf Of
Nancy
Maxwell
Sent: Tu
e!
!
sday, September 09, 2008 5:29 PM
To: genealib at mailman.acomp.usf.edu
Subject: Re: [Genealib] DAR
Wanda, I don't have handouts, but I normally refer
potential
members to
the local DAR chapter and give them the excellent DAR web
site
because
the Society has specific procedures and requirements for
membership. I
haven't been asked about SAR membership yet.
Nancy Kouyoumjian Maxwell, Genealogy Librarian
Frances Pittman Malcolm Genealogy Room
Grapevine Public Library
1201 Municipal Way
Grapevine, TX 76051
Voice: 817-410-3429
Fax:
817-410-3084
E-mail: nmaxwell at grapevinetexas.gov
"The cure for boredom is curiosity. There is no cure for
curiosity."
~Dorothy Parker
>>> "Wanda Hunter" <whunter at cumberland.lib.nc.us> 9/9/2008
4:01
PM >>>
Do any of you have handouts with resources that you give to
customers
who are trying to get into the DAR or SAR? Would you
please
share.
Thanks.
Wanda Hunter
Local & State History Manager
Cumberland County Public Library & Information Center
300 Maiden Ln
Fayetteville, NC 28301-5000
910-483-7727, ext. 309
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