[Genealib] Re: Genealogy ready reference

Damaris Fish damarisfish at gmail.com
Wed May 28 05:00:19 EDT 2008 

Our family is packing to move to Washington, from Oregon. I personally still
have older editions of some of the ready reference publications that have
been mentioned here. I am sure I picked them up (free) because some nice
genealogy librarian got newer editions for their collection. Thanks! I know
this is a different situation than is being discussed here, but I use the
references as clues - that's largely what genealogy is about! So, no
disclaimer is required for things you dispose of, and I, for one, am
grateful that what was updated was offered to patrons. Recycle. It is the
nature of the beast that things on the internet change, so we just get
creative tracking them down again. It's a lot like what we do in genealogy
research, huh?  However, the lesson is - don't let us do it! "...Make it
easy to be near you <http://www.mp3lyrics.org/b/beatles/i-will/>..." Google
yourself from time to time & go update your own posts' email addresses or
webpage links.

In our family history center we have the same
budget/usefulness/timeliness/Space issues. We actively try to educate our
patrons with learning to use resources they can get to at will (read that -
when we are not available, eg. in the middle of the night!), and so we rely
on internet resources a lot.  Some of our patrons, and staff, are more
comfortable with print volumes for their research, and our collection of
reference books does get used, but more and more less and less. As more
record keeping for family history research is being done
electronically, then copies of source documents are also being saved
electronically first, and then in hard copy. So our director and asst
director are trying to compare our bookshelves with what is available online
and make sure that we keep what is not online yet. This colors their
decisions as to whether to keep up with the purchase of newer editions of
some of these works. (If electronic versions are available to us free or
with our regular subscriptions, then we don't purchase new print editions.)
On our computers we try to keep our favorites links list in good shape. In
IE7 that can be exported. You all might consider posting a file of favorite
favorites on the usf.edu site. (And Thanks to USF for that supporting this
list :-)  In our staff newsletter newly discovered or tried and true links
to online resources are reviewed. Buzz, buzz.

Thanks to the link for Diane Kovacs
page<http://www.kovacs.com/oldresults/gencore06.html>with basic
reference picks. That was nice.

Damaris Fish
Central Point, Oregon

On Mon, May 26, 2008 at 9:00 AM, <genealib-request at mailman.acomp.usf.edu>
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> From: "Judy Riffel" <riffelj at bellsouth.net>
> Subject: [Genealib] GA Gen Magazine
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> Georgia Genealogical Magazine back issues needed.
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> Does anyone have duplicates of the following that they can sell or trade to
> fill in the collection at the Louisiana State Archives:
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> #27, Jan. 1968
> #28, Apr. 1968
> #74, Fall 1979
> vol. 27, #4, issue #104, Fall 1987
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> Thanks.
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> Judy Riffel
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> From: "Judy Riffel" <riffelj at bellsouth.net>
> Subject: [Genealib] Privacy issues
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> I'm looking for some help with wording a privacy clause to add to our
> genealogy society's bylaws.  Is there anyone on this list who could provide
> me with some examples from their society's bylaws?  In particular, this
> would cover the membership list, but could include other things.
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> Thanks.
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> Judy Riffel
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> From: "Trevia Wooster Beverly" <treviawbeverly at comcast.net>
> Subject: Re: [Genealib] Privacy issues
> To: "Librarians Serving Genealogists" <genealib at mailman.acomp.usf.edu>
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> Judy, I don't have a copy for genealogy societies on my computer and the
> ones for the historical commission would not apply.  Privacy? Are you
> thinking Membership List?
>
> If so, I would like to offer an opinion in that regard.  People do tend to
> get paranoid (maybe a little too strong a word) about such lists.  Very
> little is private these days, and especially for genealogists.  We have our
> e-mail on any number message boards, etc.
>
>    In a Society, I think people want to know who the other members are and
> to not publish a list is not good.  I used to do a lot of membership
> solicitation for a group when I had the membership list so I could see who
> was already a member and who was not. Often I could point out to the
> prospect that their friend or neighbor was already a member ... and I could
> get that member to follow up.  I suspect during the time we published a list
> ---- to our members ---- I brought in more new members than anyone else.
>
>   I  think that a  statement in the bylaws that membership lists are not to
> be shared outside the membership without express permission from the B/D is
> not unreasonable.  Sometimes there is good reason to share the list ... name
> & address only .. for another like group to send out
> invitations to something special.But that should come from the Secretary,
> not members.
>
>   Yes, I know that you cannot really control it 100% but the good side of a
> membership list for all members outweighs the negative.  This particular
> group I'm speaking of meets quarterly ... we have people from all over the
> county ... many who do not know one another.   A list to put a name with the
> face would be extremely helpful.  A list is helpful if you  want or need to
> call someone (for a ride or to offer a ride, to ask if someone will serve on
> a committee, etc.)
>
> A Membership Directory should include the name, address, phone # and the
>  e-mail address.  I like to see the year the person joined (1975) after the
> name or a * if a Charter Member.  Anyone who does not wish their information
> published can have their name only shown without any other data.  And if
> they are uptight more than that, then leave them off and note that you have
> 20 (or whatever #) members who wishes to remain anonymous).
>
> I might add that the membership of this large group I speak of  has
> dwindled significantly since we stopped publishing a Membership Directory. I
> think due in large part because we don't really know one another any more.
> We go to the meeting, sit down and maybe introduce ourselves to
> the person next to us -- listen to the program and get up and leave.
>  Seeing the name would also remind me that I had not seen 'Sue' at the
> meeting so I would call to see if all is well.
>   Members of a group should have enough in common that they would want to
> know one another. I want to know who the other members are of any group I
> belong to (and I continue to fight this one, and I believe we are now going
> to have the list on the website in a "members only" area).
>
> Trevia Wooster Beverly
> Houston, Texas
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>  ----- Original Message -----
>  From: Judy Riffel
>  To: genealib
>  Sent: Monday, May 26, 2008 7:21 AM
>  Subject: [Genealib] Privacy issues
>
>
>  I'm looking for some help with wording a privacy clause to add to our
> genealogy society's bylaws.  Is there anyone on this list who could provide
> me with some examples from their society's bylaws?  In particular, this
> would cover the membership list, but could include other things.
>
>  Thanks.
>
>  Judy Riffel
>  Baton Rouge, LA
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> Date: Mon, 26 May 2008 08:49:59 -0700 (PDT)
> From: Carrie Cook <carriescorner at yahoo.com>
> Subject: [Genealib] Re: Genealogy & Ready Reference - who's to blame
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> In a perfect world, editors and manuscript staff would not be overworked,
> all organizations and repositories would have unlimited funds and volunteers
> to notify everyone of every little change and all ready reference would
> always be 100% up to date. That said, if we all do as much as we can to be
> sure than any contact changes are broadcast far and wide, and editors make
> an effort to confirm content between editions, the books will be that much
> better. Sometimes though, neither seems to occur.
> &nbsp;
> After reading about the Genealogist's Address Book website&nbsp;in a
> newsletter, I visited and noted a few things I new were out of date for my
> area. I tried emailing and the email bounced back. If the email is bad, how
> am I to know that "spending" the time to write a letter and mail it won't
> bounce as well? Many organizations and repositories don't have unlimited
> resources to try one contact avenue after another. I'm sure this type of
> thing seems minor, but these irregularities add up and compound the
> "problem". I'm not sure there is one solution. My suggestion, if you see out
> of date listings online or with an email attached - try sending an update.
> It costs you the time for the email and nothing else.
>
> Carrie Cook
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> From: "Bobby Powell" &lt;bpowell at aclib.us <lt%3Bbpowell at aclib.us>&gt;
> Subject: RE: [Genealib] genealogy ready reference books
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> I believe it is the responsibility of the publisher to check the
> information, not the local organizations.  This would be in keeping with
> the desire to publish an accurate resource.
>
>
>
> Bobby Ruth Powell, Librarian
>
> Alachua County Library District
>
> 401 East University Avenue
>
> Gainesville FL 32601
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> www.aclib.us &lt;http://www.aclib.us/&gt;
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> bpowell at aclib.us
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