[Genealib] Iron Gate Publishing's Directory
Mulholland, Michael
mmulholl at ahml.info
Tue Mar 4 12:43:14 EST 2008
I actually emailed Iron Gate about our library's entry. It was at least
8 years old. They also had a listing for a local genealogical society
that hasn't been in existence for over 20 years!
This is their response below.
"Thank you for letting us know about the updated information. We have a
long-standing policy of not excluding societies from the Directory until
we hear affirmatively that they are no longer in existence. We also will
be excluding e-mail addresses from the current edition due to the number
of complaints by people who do not want their e-mail addresses
published."
Sincerely,
The Staff
Iron Gate Publishing
Hope this information is hepful.
Michael Mulholland, M.A./Library & Information Studies
Local History/Genealogy Librarian
Arlington Heights Memorial Library
500 N. Dunton Ave.
Arlington Heights, IL 60004
(847) 870-3643
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1. Re: RE: Genealogies and privacy (dlunow at aol.com)
2. RE: RE: Genealogies and privacy (John Wylie)
3. Iron Gate Publishing's Directory (Mary K. Mannix)
4. Re: Iron Gate Publishing's Directory (treviawbeverly at comcast.net)
5. NC businesses that digitize materials (Rhonda Konig)
6. RE: NC businesses that digitize materials (Johnson, Jane)
7. Re: Iron Gate Publishing's Directory (Mary K. Mannix)
8. Re: CAPS (Kathleen Wieland)
9. Re: RE: Genealogies and privacy (Jane)
10. Re: RE: Genealogies and privacy (Angie Wilderman)
11. Re: CAPS (Angie Wilderman)
12. [MODERATOR] Re: [Genealib] CAPS (Drew Smith)
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Message: 1
Date: Mon, 03 Mar 2008 12:44:24 -0500
From: dlunow at aol.com
Subject: Re: [Genealib] RE: Genealogies and privacy
To: genealib at mailman.acomp.usf.edu
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Yes, "those pieces of information are commonly used as security
questions by financial institutions".
HOWEVER, if you are wise, you will make certain that your financial
institution does NOT use those common questions.
AND ! The answers to those "commonly used security questions" are ALL
easily found on the Internet. Come up with your own (question and
answer) that is NOT commonly used.? They will be happy to change those
for you.
As to identity theft, That UNCOMMON question will help that. AND, DO NOT
use your social Security number for anything except your bank, doctor,
employer,?the IRS, or Medicare.
Printed right on your card??that it is against the law to use the
card?for other purposes.
I NEVER give out my Social Security number.? Yes, I know everyone wants
it for ID. Well they can just want it. I sometimes?have to give a
deposit for the first year of business. I NEVER GIVE THE NUMBER?TO THEM.
I just say if there is no other way, I will take my business else ware.
They work it out.
Sometimes I just have to set up a security question so that when I call
about the account they know it is me.
Use items like: your dogs name, your favorite color, favorite flower,
astrological sign, etc.? Like any other pass word, mix up letters and
number and slashes and dashes. OR something!
Diane Lunow
Stagecoach Library for Genealogical Research
585 County Road 1492
Wimberley, Texas 78676-5674
-----Original Message-----
From: Grimshaw, Kathy <Grimshaw at cliftonpl.org>
To: genealib at mailman.acomp.usf.edu
Sent: Mon, 3 Mar 2008 10:25 am
Subject: [Genealib] RE: Genealogies and privacy
I actually had this issue with my name being included in an on-line
family tree. I asked the person who posted my family tree to remove the
information about living relatives and replace it with the term
"living".
Maybe I'm paranoid, but I don't want my birth date, place of birth and
mother's maiden name posted for the world to see- not because I care if
people know how old I am, but because these are pieces of information
commonly used as security questions by financial institutions, and in
this age of identity theft, I would prefer to make it has hard as
possible for someone to get my personal info.
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Message: 2
Date: Mon, 3 Mar 2008 11:45:11 -0600
From: "John Wylie" <john at johnwylie.com>
Subject: RE: [Genealib] RE: Genealogies and privacy
To: "'Librarians Serving Genealogists'"
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Ellen, 3 March 2008
While I agree that we shouldn't list personal information on living
people on genealogical (or any other) websites, my reasons are different
from yours and are based on more than privacy. Personal privacy today is
a myth.
Family is more important than Genealogy, and as a genealogist I try to
avoid upsetting or offending people in my families. After all "ensuring
the domestic tranquility" is in our Constitution and I like my domestic
tranquility.* And since some in my families believe either the privacy
myth or the identity theft myth, upsetting them is certainly NOT
tranquil. <grin>
Another myth is that these postings aid criminals involved in identity
theft. Just because such personal information CAN be used by bad people,
it does not follow that it IS used. Do you have any real-world examples
of anyone who has used genealogical online information to steal
identities? I recall that Dick Eastman had, and may still have, a
standing reward for anyone who can so prove.
John Wylie
*Before someone jumps on me about the real meaning of domestic
tranquility, please think irony. The framers of our Constitution were
not talking about home and hearth, but about domestic peace, currently
termed homeland security.
-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:genealib-bounces at mailman.acomp.usf.edu] On Behalf Of AnnEllen
Barr
Sent: Monday, March 03, 2008 10:49 AM
To: Librarians Serving Genealogists
Subject: RE: [Genealib] RE: Genealogies and privacy
You are absolutely correct in that information on living persons should
not be posted on line Or given to anyone other than family that you know
closely. Identity theft is all too common And this aids the criminals.
ellen at BarrFinancial.com
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Message: 3
Date: Mon, 3 Mar 2008 13:43:09 -0500
From: "Mary K. Mannix" <mkmannix at gmail.com>
Subject: [Genealib] Iron Gate Publishing's Directory
To: "Librarians Serving Genealogists" <genealib at mailman.acomp.usf.edu>
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Hello All,
I am ashamed to say ( I think) that I swear I have never heard of the
"Directory of Genealogical and Historical Societies, Libraries, and
Periodicals", put out by Iron Gate Publishing, until an order form for
the new edition just appeared in my mailbox. Is this a good source??
Is it worth the $250?? Anybody got an opinion?? Thanks, Mary
--
Mary K. Mannix
Maryland Room Manager
C. Burr Artz Public Library
Frederick County Public Libraries
Frederick, MD
and
Past Chair, ALA\RUSA\History Section
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Message: 4
Date: Mon, 03 Mar 2008 19:05:06 +0000
From: treviawbeverly at comcast.net
Subject: Re: [Genealib] Iron Gate Publishing's Directory
To: Librarians Serving Genealogists <genealib at mailman.acomp.usf.edu>
Message-ID:
<030320081905.16814.47CC4BE20008C2E5000041AE221555172497049D0A900A0D990E
07900A9D9B at comcast.net>
Not the same as the one I have for a lot less - and of course cannot
make a fair comparison.
Directory of Historical Organizations in the United States and Canada.
American Association for State and Local History. AltaMira Press.
www.altamirapress.com
Excellent. Mine is the 15th ed. (2001) - I get a new one about every
8-10 years. Some gen societies are listed but I can always find them on
the Internet ... not as easy for museums, historical organizations,
special archives, libraries with genealogy sections, etc. 1357 pgs.
Trevia Wooster Beverly
Houston, Texas
-------------- Original message ----------------------
From: "Mary K. Mannix" <mkmannix at gmail.com>
> Hello All,
>
> I am ashamed to say ( I think) that I swear I have never heard of the
> "Directory of Genealogical and Historical Societies, Libraries, and
> Periodicals", put out by Iron Gate Publishing, until an order form for
> the new edition just appeared in my mailbox. Is this a good source??
> Is it worth the $250?? Anybody got an opinion?? Thanks, Mary
>
> --
> Mary K. Mannix
> Maryland Room Manager
> C. Burr Artz Public Library
> Frederick County Public Libraries
> Frederick, MD
> and
> Past Chair, ALA\RUSA\History Section
> _______________________________________________
> genealib mailing list
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Message: 5
Date: Mon, 3 Mar 2008 14:19:37 -0500
From: "Rhonda Konig" <Rhonda.Konig at waynegov.com>
Subject: [Genealib] NC businesses that digitize materials
To: <genealib at mailman.acomp.usf.edu>
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A local business would like to digitize some of their records and put
them on CD-ROM. Can anyone recommend a business that does this,
preferably in North Carolina or in the Southeast?
Thank you,
Rhonda Konig
Reference Department Head
Wayne County Public Library
1001 E. Ash St.
Goldsboro, NC 27530
919-735-1824 ext. 5106
rhonda.konig at waynegov.com
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Message: 6
Date: Mon, 3 Mar 2008 14:24:18 -0500
From: "Johnson, Jane" <jjohnson at plcmc.org>
Subject: RE: [Genealib] NC businesses that digitize materials
To: "Librarians Serving Genealogists" <genealib at mailman.acomp.usf.edu>
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We have had this company do some records for us and were pleased with
the outcome and service. It is a few miles from Carolina Place Mall in
Pineville, NC.
Virtual Image Technology Inc
11632 Harrisburg Road
Fort Mill, SC 29715-9158
http://www.vimagetech.com <http://www.vimagetech.com>
Jane Johnson
Librarian / Carolina Room
Public Library of Charlotte & Mecklenburg Co.
________________________________
From: genealib-bounces at mailman.acomp.usf.edu
[mailto:genealib-bounces at mailman.acomp.usf.edu] On Behalf Of Rhonda
Konig
Sent: Monday, March 03, 2008 2:20 PM
To: genealib at mailman.acomp.usf.edu
Subject: [Genealib] NC businesses that digitize materials
A local business would like to digitize some of their records and put
them on CD-ROM. Can anyone recommend a business that does this,
preferably in North Carolina or in the Southeast?
Thank you,
Rhonda Konig
Reference Department Head
Wayne County Public Library
1001 E. Ash St.
Goldsboro, NC 27530
919-735-1824 ext. 5106
rhonda.konig at waynegov.com
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Message: 7
Date: Mon, 3 Mar 2008 14:35:57 -0500
From: "Mary K. Mannix" <mkmannix at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Genealib] Iron Gate Publishing's Directory
To: "Librarians Serving Genealogists" <genealib at mailman.acomp.usf.edu>
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Thanks for the reply.
I am very dependent on the AASLH publication, as well. Anybody have
any idea if they have plans to do a new edition?
Thanks,
Mary
--
Mary K. Mannix
Maryland Room Manager
C. Burr Artz Public Library
Frederick County Public Libraries
Frederick, MD
and
Past Chair, ALA\RUSA\History Section
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Message: 8
Date: Mon, 03 Mar 2008 17:18:20 -0500
From: "Kathleen Wieland" <kwieland at otis.lioninc.org>
Subject: Re: [Genealib] CAPS
To: Librarians Serving Genealogists <genealib at mailman.acomp.usf.edu>
Message-ID: <web-4188470 at lioninc.org>
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There may be reasons other than blindness. My
aunt passed away several years ago, a victim
of ALS. For the last year or two of her life,
the computer was her only effective means of
communication. Pecking out messages with two
fingers - and later, only one - the typing had
to be kept simple. For many of those who
received her emails, all CAPS was easier to
read than all lower-case would have been.
On Sat, 1 Mar 2008 18:35:28 -0600
>Perhaps the Visually Impaired person would
>add a signature note to their messages tell
>the world the reason for the caps. I too
>don't like to see all caps, but if I know the
>reason I can ignore my feelings.
Kathleen Wieland
Reference Department
Otis Library
261 Main Street
Norwich CT 06360
860-889-2365
FAX 860-886-4744
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Message: 9
Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2008 07:17:11 -0500
From: Jane <jdouma at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Genealib] RE: Genealogies and privacy
To: "Librarians Serving Genealogists" <genealib at mailman.acomp.usf.edu>
Message-ID:
<dba997250803040417y6b35c447o304b5875583d50d at mail.gmail.com>
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I just got a notice from the Post Office telling me all the things they
are
doing to prevent identity theft and what we should do. It listed the
primary sources - dumpster diving, credit card swipes, phishing, good
old
fashioned theft of wallet, a couple others, but nothing about stealing
names
from genealogy web sites.
Just to keep it private, I have asked a cousin many times to remove my
info
and that of my immediate family, but he has not. An I have used a
maiden
name in my mother's line, but not hers! It is not likely anyone would
know
which to choose.
Jane
On 3/3/08, John Wylie <john at johnwylie.com> wrote:
>
> Ellen, 3 March 2008
>
> While I agree that we shouldn't list personal information on living
people
> on genealogical (or any other) websites, my reasons are different from
> yours
> and are based on more than privacy. Personal privacy today is a myth.
>
> Family is more important than Genealogy, and as a genealogist I try to
> avoid
> upsetting or offending people in my families. After all "ensuring the
> domestic tranquility" is in our Constitution and I like my domestic
> tranquility.* And since some in my families believe either the privacy
> myth
> or the identity theft myth, upsetting them is certainly NOT tranquil.
> <grin>
>
>
> Another myth is that these postings aid criminals involved in identity
> theft. Just because such personal information CAN be used by bad
people,
> it
> does not follow that it IS used. Do you have any real-world examples
of
> anyone who has used genealogical online information to steal
identities? I
> recall that Dick Eastman had, and may still have, a standing reward
for
> anyone who can so prove.
>
> John Wylie
>
> *Before someone jumps on me about the real meaning of domestic
> tranquility,
> please think irony. The framers of our Constitution were not talking
about
> home and hearth, but about domestic peace, currently termed homeland
> security.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: genealib-bounces at mailman.acomp.usf.edu
> [mailto:genealib-bounces at mailman.acomp.usf.edu] On Behalf Of AnnEllen
Barr
> Sent: Monday, March 03, 2008 10:49 AM
> To: Librarians Serving Genealogists
> Subject: RE: [Genealib] RE: Genealogies and privacy
>
> You are absolutely correct in that information on living persons
should
> not be posted on line
> Or given to anyone other than family that you know closely. Identity
> theft is all too common
> And this aids the criminals.
>
> ellen at BarrFinancial.com
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Message: 10
Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2008 08:01:19 -0500
From: "Angie Wilderman" <agwilderman at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Genealib] RE: Genealogies and privacy
To: "Librarians Serving Genealogists" <genealib at mailman.acomp.usf.edu>
Message-ID:
<8aa9684e0803040501y710e0b23s1eca252555739d04 at mail.gmail.com>
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We had that situation arise recently with the password protection
question. The primo question is - What is your mother's maiden name? I
told the guy that was the worst question as everyone in the world can
figure that out due to genealogy.
Angie
On Mon, Mar 3, 2008 at 11:25 AM, Grimshaw, Kathy
<Grimshaw at cliftonpl.org> wrote:
> I actually had this issue with my name being included in an on-line
> family tree. I asked the person who posted my family tree to remove
the
> information about living relatives and replace it with the term
> "living".
>
> Maybe I'm paranoid, but I don't want my birth date, place of birth
and
> mother's maiden name posted for the world to see- not because I care
if
> people know how old I am, but because these are pieces of information
> commonly used as security questions by financial institutions, and in
> this age of identity theft, I would prefer to make it has hard as
> possible for someone to get my personal info.
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> genealib mailing list
> genealib at mailman.acomp.usf.edu
> http://mailman.acomp.usf.edu/mailman/listinfo/genealib
>
--
Angie Wilderman
Chesterfield Historical Society of Virginia
PO Box 40
Chesterfield, VA 23832
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Message: 11
Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2008 08:03:14 -0500
From: "Angie Wilderman" <agwilderman at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Genealib] CAPS
To: "Librarians Serving Genealogists" <genealib at mailman.acomp.usf.edu>
Message-ID:
<8aa9684e0803040503t38bfa68ei59571c7d63a80656 at mail.gmail.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
There is also a way under view to enlarge text.
On Sat, Mar 1, 2008 at 7:35 PM, L.L. Scott <llscott2000 at bellsouth.net>
wrote:
>
>
> Perhaps the Visually Impaired person would add a signature note to
their
> messages tell the world the reason for the caps. I too don't like to
see all
> caps, but if I know the reason I can ignore my feelings.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: mrarchive at aol.com
> To: genealib at mailman.acomp.usf.edu
> Sent: Saturday, March 01, 2008 6:25 PM
> Subject: Re: [Genealib] Family history donation and privacy issues
>
> i SEE THAT JBRANNAN at UWA.EDU
> SENT HER COMMETNSS THAT WERE MEANT FOR ME TO THE WHOLE LIST SERVE SO I
> THOUGH EVERYONE SHOULD SEE THE REASON AND RESPONSE. PEHAPS IT WILL
GIVE
> OTHERS PAUSE BEFORE FIRING OFF THEIR OPINIONS WITHOUT KNOWING THE
REASONS
> FOR CAPS.
>
>
> "PERHAPS MADAME YOU DO NOT VISUALLY IMPARED PATRONS ? WE WHO ARE
VISUALLY
> IMPAIRRED ALWAYS USE CAPS. I MUST ENLARGE ALL THE TEXT IN THE LIST
SERVE TO
> READ I AM SORRY THAT YOU SEEMED OFFENDED I HOPE THAT YOU GET OVER
IT. I
> HAVE FORWARDED YOUR KIND NOTE TO THE BLIND FORUM YOU MAY HAVE SOME
OTHER
> EMAILS COMING YOUR WAY. HAVE A NICE DAY.
>
> S.SEAMES"
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>
--
Angie Wilderman
Chesterfield Historical Society of Virginia
PO Box 40
Chesterfield, VA 23832
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Message: 12
Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2008 09:12:28 -0500
From: "Drew Smith" <amsmith at lib.usf.edu>
Subject: [MODERATOR] Re: [Genealib] CAPS
To: "Librarians Serving Genealogists" <genealib at mailman.acomp.usf.edu>
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I thought I had made it clear in my previous posting, but apparently
not.
The topic of "CAPS" is *closed*. It is not the purpose of this list
to discuss how to format messages for this list (or for any other
list).
Please return to the topic of this list (genealogical librarianship).
Now.
Drew Smith
GENEALIB List Administrator
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