[Genealib] RE: Genealogy questions asked at the reference desk
Amber Cushing
acushing at library.state.nh.us
Wed Jun 21 10:34:45 EDT 2006
Hi,
I have handled genealogy questions at an archival repository and libraries.
This article might be of use: Seeking information, seeking connections,
seeking meaning: genealogists and family historians by Elizabeth Yakel
http://informationr.net/ir/10-1/paper205.html
I find one of the most important concepts to grasp is how genealogists think
differently than traditional academic users. If you're used to academics,
it can be hard at first to understand that many genealogists have an
entirely different idea about how to find something.
As far as websites, there are many, but its important to distinguish between
websites that have information, or ideas about how to find information (ie a
family tree on a personal site versus how to find a birth record in a
specific county.) http://stevemorse.org/ has a helpful ed finder when
working with the census and can help bridge information sources together
that I've often used in the past.
Amber Cushing
Reference Librarian
New Hampshire State Library
20 Park Street
Concord, NH 03301
603-271-3302
http://www.nh.gov/nhsl/index.html
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2. Rebinding (Bob Velke)
3. RE: Rebinding (Grundset, Eric)
4. Genealogy questions asked at the reference desk
(Connie Kuntz-Thorsen)
5. Re: No more remote access to HQ (Chris & Tom Tinney, Sr.)
6. RE: Genealogy questions asked at the reference desk
(Tracy Luscombe)
7. RE: Genealogy questions asked at the reference desk
(Elizabeth Clemons)
8. Question about copyright. (Dlunow at aol.com)
9. RE: Genealogy questions asked at the reference desk
(Lynette Jones)
10. RE: Question about copyright. (Tracy Luscombe)
11. RE: Rebinding (Nancy Miller)
12. Re: RE: [Genealib] Genealogy questions asked at the reference
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13. RE: Genealogy questions asked at the reference desk (Larry Naukam)
14. RE: Question about copyright. (Brannan, Joyce A.)
15. Ancestry announcement (Rhonda Stoffer)
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Message: 1
Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2006 11:45:50 -0500
From: "Janice Schultz" <ge_librarian at mcpl.lib.mo.us>
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The free books have been taken.
Janice
Janice Schultz, Genealogy Librarian
Mid-Continent Public Library
ge_librarian at mcpl.lib.mo.us -=- http://www.mcpl.lib.mo.us/ge
Unless explicitly attributed, the opinions expressed are personal.
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Message: 2
Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2006 14:57:38 -0400
From: Bob Velke <bvelke at archivecdbooksusa.com>
Subject: [Genealib] Rebinding
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I wonder if anyone has a suggestion for a bindery that provides good
service at a reasonable price? The East Coast would be better and
Balt/D.C. area better still.
I use a good service for leather bindings but I need one for less elaborate
"library" bindings.
Do any large libraries have a bindery in-house?
Thanks.
Bob Velke
Archive CD Books USA
www.ArchiveCDBooksUSA.com
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Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2006 15:20:54 -0400
From: "Grundset, Eric" <egrundset at dar.org>
Subject: RE: [Genealib] Rebinding
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There used to be/still is? a Shenandoah Valley Bindery [email:
svbind at shentel.net], somewhere near Winchester, Virginia. We have used
Heckman Bindery in W. Manchester, Indiana, for decades -- they pick up and
deliver monthly -- www.heckmanbindery.com.
Eric G. Grundset
Library Director
DAR Library
National Society Daughters of the American Revolution
1776 D St., N.W.
Washington, DC 20006-5303
202-879-3313 (phone)
202-879-3227 (fax)
egrundset at dar.org
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I wonder if anyone has a suggestion for a bindery that provides good
service at a reasonable price? The East Coast would be better and
Balt/D.C. area better still.
I use a good service for leather bindings but I need one for less elaborate
"library" bindings.
Do any large libraries have a bindery in-house?
Thanks.
Bob Velke
Archive CD Books USA
www.ArchiveCDBooksUSA.com
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Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2006 16:43:44 -0400
From: "Connie Kuntz-Thorsen" <THORSENC at stjohns.edu>
Subject: [Genealib] Genealogy questions asked at the reference desk
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Genealogy questions asked at the reference desk (hope this isn't a
duplicate post) -
Hopefully as librarians in the field you might be able to share your
expertise. I am teaching a genealogy reference course this summer and
since I am not in the field can only give the students the "academic"
view of genealogy research. Would you be able to share questions
commonly asked about genealogy at the reference desk? Do you have any
books/websites/etc. that you constantly recommend? Any obscure sources?
I'd like to give them questions to help them discover what they may be
faced with as reference librarians dealing with genealogy. If you have
any suggestions you could offer I would greatly appreciate it.
Thanks for your help.
Connie Thorsen
Associate Professor
St. John's University
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Message: 5
Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2006 13:53:50 -0700
From: "Chris & Tom Tinney, Sr." <vctinney at sbcglobal.net>
Subject: Re: [Genealib] No more remote access to HQ
To: Librarians Serving Genealogists <genealib at mailman.acomp.usf.edu>
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UC San Diego has available online "HeritageQuest main page.
Restricted to UCSD IP addresses."
http://melvyl.cdlib.org/F/XJ2UBUG2VPIQYSBBJ4UN11C735RAHMES5MQG8KJYBQ4FTKEGPN
-08168?func=file&file_name=find-b&local_base=CONLIN
The California Libraries Catalog is at:
http://www.calcat.org/
Anyone can view the holdings of all the participating public
libraries in California. People who have a California address
may enter that address to gain access to the "All Libraries"
view which shows the holding of all the libraries worldwide
that participate in this shared catalog. In California
the "All Libraries" view includes academic, law libraries
and special libraries.
http://academic-genealogy.com/californiastateinformation.htm#library
Someone on this list may wish to try the above site and report
their findings, (as to connecting with "HeritageQuest"), using the
California Libraries Catalog URL, noted above.
Respectfully yours,
Tom Tinney, Sr.
Who's Who in America,
Millennium Edition [54th] through 2004
Who's Who In Genealogy and Heraldry,
{both editions]
Genealogy and Family History Internet Web Directory
http://www.academic-genealogy.com/
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Dick Eastman wrote:
> ALL California residents may obtain free access to HeritageQuest
> Online from their homes.
>
> You need a library card from one of the participating libraries that
> offers library cards to all California residents. HOWEVER, obtaining
> that library card might not be convenient: in most cases, you must go
> to the participating library in person to obtain your library card.
> For many Californians, the nearest participating library might be a
> long ways away.
>
> According to the information entered by users of the Encyclopedia of
> Genealogy at http://www.eogen.com, the following libraries offer
> remote access to HeritageQuest Online to ALL California residents:
> Alameda County Library, County of Los Angeles Public Library, Long
> Beach Public Library and the Placentia Library District. I suspect
> there are more. (If you do know of more, please enter that information
> into the Encyclopedia of Genealogy's pages at
> http://eogen.com/HeritageQuestOnline.)
>
> One library in California is unique in that it gives library cards to
> residents of ALL states. Technically, ALL Americans may obtain free
> in-home access to HeritageQuest Online through the Los Angeles Public
> Library. The problem is traveling to that library one time to obtain a
> library card in person. That requirement obviously will stop most people.
>
> By coincidence, I will be in Los Angeles in a few months for another
> reason and hope to test this for myself. I plan to stop by a branch of
> the Los Angeles Public Library and obtain my own library card. (I live
> in Massachusetts.) That should give me an additional method of
> accessing HeritageQuest Online from home.
>
> Thanks.
>
> - Dick Eastman
>
>
> Laura Spurrier wrote:
>
>> Dick Eastman's blog implied that all public libraries in Calif. offer
>> access to Heritage Quest. I checked the link he offered to a list of
>> such libraries and found it covered perhaps 25% of the state. The
>> rest of us are out of luck. My local public library certainly
>> doesn't offer it. Perhaps coverage is better back east?
>> Laura Spurrier
>>
>> On Jun 12, 2006, at 9:09 AM, Mary K. Mannix wrote:
>>
>>> I think this would be a great time for all us public librarians to
>>> make sure that the genealogical societies in our areas are aware of
>>> the ease of which their members can get library cards, even at our own
>>> systems or in the systems where they live, and therefore keep access
>>> to HQ. I am often amazed at the traveling genealogists who come
>>> through my room who didn't even know they could get to HQ from their
>>> public libraries. We always check their systems for them and don't
>>> think we have ever looked one up that did not have HQ. Mary
>>>
>>> PS I will admit that I didn't even know that the societies could get
>>> such subscriptions and I can see it being a pricing issue.
>>>
>>>
>>> --Mary K. Mannix
>>> Maryland Room Manager
>>> C. Burr Artz Public Library
>>> Frederick County Public Libraries
>>> Frederick, MD
>>
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Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2006 16:01:52 -0500
From: "Tracy Luscombe" <tluscombe at mckinneytexas.org>
Subject: RE: [Genealib] Genealogy questions asked at the reference
desk
To: "Librarians Serving Genealogists" <genealib at mailman.acomp.usf.edu>
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We did a program on this at our state library conference this year. I'll
send you (off list) the top ten questions/issues gathered, including
ones from members of this list.
Tracy E. Luscombe
Genealogy Librarian
McKinney Memorial Public Library
101 E. Hunt Street
McKinney, TX 75069
tluscombe at mckinneytexas.org
972-547-7343
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[mailto:genealib-bounces at mailman.acomp.usf.edu] On Behalf Of Connie
Kuntz-Thorsen
Sent: Tuesday, June 20, 2006 3:44 PM
To: genealib at mailman.acomp.usf.edu
Subject: [Genealib] Genealogy questions asked at the reference desk
Genealogy questions asked at the reference desk (hope this isn't a
duplicate post) -
Hopefully as librarians in the field you might be able to share your
expertise. I am teaching a genealogy reference course this summer and
since I am not in the field can only give the students the "academic"
view of genealogy research. Would you be able to share questions
commonly asked about genealogy at the reference desk? Do you have any
books/websites/etc. that you constantly recommend? Any obscure sources?
I'd like to give them questions to help them discover what they may be
faced with as reference librarians dealing with genealogy. If you have
any suggestions you could offer I would greatly appreciate it.
Thanks for your help.
Connie Thorsen
Associate Professor
St. John's University
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Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2006 17:24:19 -0400
From: "Elizabeth Clemons" <eclemons at hcplibrary.org>
Subject: RE: [Genealib] Genealogy questions asked at the reference
desk
To: "Librarians Serving Genealogists" <genealib at mailman.acomp.usf.edu>
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Dear Connie,
I am a reference librarian at a public library in Indiana. Our library has
a local history/genealogy room, but no full-time librarian who staff the
room. As such, we often get genealogy questions at the reference desk. Be
sure to mention that one of the most interesting aspects of reference work
is the variety of questions we can answer for patrons. Sometimes even the
most mundane question (in our opinion), when answered can make someone's
day.
I tend to get quite a few technical questions. For example, patrons want to
know how to use the microfilm machines and usually want to print as well.
We also get requests for obituaries, vital records (birth, marriage and
death). I refer the patrons to the county health department for information
about vital records. Patrons are also curious about HeritageQuest and
Ancestry Library Edition. We offer training for both of these online
genealogical resources.
Hope this information helped you.
Take care,
Elizabeth Clemons
Reference Librarian
________________________________
From: genealib-bounces at mailman.acomp.usf.edu on behalf of Connie
Kuntz-Thorsen
Sent: Tue 6/20/2006 3:43 PM
To: genealib at mailman.acomp.usf.edu
Subject: [Genealib] Genealogy questions asked at the reference desk
Genealogy questions asked at the reference desk (hope this isn't a duplicate
post) -
Hopefully as librarians in the field you might be able to share your
expertise. I am teaching a genealogy reference course this summer and since
I am not in the field can only give the students the "academic" view of
genealogy research. Would you be able to share questions commonly asked
about genealogy at the reference desk? Do you have any books/websites/etc.
that you constantly recommend? Any obscure sources? I'd like to give them
questions to help them discover what they may be faced with as reference
librarians dealing with genealogy. If you have any suggestions you could
offer I would greatly appreciate it.
Thanks for your help.
Connie Thorsen
Associate Professor
St. John's University
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Message: 8
Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2006 18:30:40 EDT
From: Dlunow at aol.com
Subject: [Genealib] Question about copyright.
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I am sure one of you knows, how long a copyright on a book is good.
So, how long?
What has to be done to get a copyright?
What has to be done to keep it in effect?
Thanks,
Diane Lunow
Stagecoach Library
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Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2006 19:20:07 -0500
From: "Lynette Jones" <Lynette.Jones at cityofcarrollton.com>
Subject: RE: [Genealib] Genealogy questions asked at the reference
desk
To: "Librarians Serving Genealogists" <genealib at mailman.acomp.usf.edu>
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My library has a genealogy room, but no dedicated staff for it, either.
Patrons ask the reference desk staff all kinds of things pertaining to
genealogy.
Please remind your students (and we should remember this ourselves)
genealogy is not a secret society or anything obscure. One should treat
these questions as they do any questions--listen, deteremine exactly what
patrons is asking, search the library's catalog, and go from there.
thanks,
Lynette
Lynette V. Jones
Information Services Supervisor
Carrollton Public Library @ Josey Ranch Lake
Carrollton, TX 75006
972-466-4814
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From: genealib-bounces at mailman.acomp.usf.edu on behalf of Elizabeth Clemons
Sent: Tue 6/20/2006 4:24 PM
To: Librarians Serving Genealogists
Subject: RE: [Genealib] Genealogy questions asked at the reference desk
Dear Connie,
I am a reference librarian at a public library in Indiana. Our library has
a local history/genealogy room, but no full-time librarian who staff the
room. As such, we often get genealogy questions at the reference desk. Be
sure to mention that one of the most interesting aspects of reference work
is the variety of questions we can answer for patrons. Sometimes even the
most mundane question (in our opinion), when answered can make someone's
day.
I tend to get quite a few technical questions. For example, patrons want to
know how to use the microfilm machines and usually want to print as well.
We also get requests for obituaries, vital records (birth, marriage and
death). I refer the patrons to the county health department for information
about vital records. Patrons are also curious about HeritageQuest and
Ancestry Library Edition. We offer training for both of these online
genealogical resources.
Hope this information helped you.
Take care,
Elizabeth Clemons
Reference Librarian
________________________________
From: genealib-bounces at mailman.acomp.usf.edu on behalf of Connie
Kuntz-Thorsen
Sent: Tue 6/20/2006 3:43 PM
To: genealib at mailman.acomp.usf.edu
Subject: [Genealib] Genealogy questions asked at the reference desk
Genealogy questions asked at the reference desk (hope this isn't a duplicate
post) -
Hopefully as librarians in the field you might be able to share your
expertise. I am teaching a genealogy reference course this summer and since
I am not in the field can only give the students the "academic" view of
genealogy research. Would you be able to share questions commonly asked
about genealogy at the reference desk? Do you have any books/websites/etc.
that you constantly recommend? Any obscure sources? I'd like to give them
questions to help them discover what they may be faced with as reference
librarians dealing with genealogy. If you have any suggestions you could
offer I would greatly appreciate it.
Thanks for your help.
Connie Thorsen
Associate Professor
St. John's University
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Message: 10
Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2006 20:10:05 -0500
From: "Tracy Luscombe" <tluscombe at mckinneytexas.org>
Subject: RE: [Genealib] Question about copyright.
To: "Librarians Serving Genealogists" <genealib at mailman.acomp.usf.edu>
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Try this web site for answers to these and other FAQs.
http://www.copyright.gov/circs/circ1.html
Tracy E. Luscombe
Genealogy Librarian
McKinney Memorial Public Library
101 E. Hunt Street
McKinney, TX 75069
tluscombe at mckinneytexas.org
972-547-7343
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Dlunow at aol.com
Sent: Tuesday, June 20, 2006 5:31 PM
To: genealib at mailman.acomp.usf.edu
Subject: [Genealib] Question about copyright.
I am sure one of you knows, how long a copyright on a book is good.
So, how long?
What has to be done to get a copyright?
What has to be done to keep it in effect?
Thanks,
Diane Lunow
Stagecoach Library
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Message: 11
Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2006 08:30:29 -0400
From: "Nancy Miller" <NMiller at vbgov.com>
Subject: RE: [Genealib] Rebinding
To: "Librarians Serving Genealogists" <genealib at mailman.acomp.usf.edu>
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Virginia Beach Public Library uses Long's Roullet Bookbinders, Inc. in
Norfolk, VA. They are reasonable, pick up, and deliver.
Long's Roullet
2800 Monticello Ave.
Norfolk, VA 23405
757-623-4244
www.longs-roullet.com
Nancy
Nancy M. Miller, MSLS
Collection Development Librarian
Virginia Beach Public Library
4100 Virginia Beach Blvd.
Virginia Beach, VA 23452-1767
757-385-0163
757-431-3741 FAX
nmiller at vbgov.com
vbgov.com/libraries
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[mailto:genealib-bounces at mailman.acomp.usf.edu] On Behalf Of Grundset,
Eric
Sent: Tuesday, June 20, 2006 3:21 PM
To: Librarians Serving Genealogists
Subject: RE: [Genealib] Rebinding
There used to be/still is? a Shenandoah Valley Bindery [email:
svbind at shentel.net], somewhere near Winchester, Virginia. We have used
Heckman Bindery in W. Manchester, Indiana, for decades -- they pick up
and deliver monthly -- www.heckmanbindery.com.
Eric G. Grundset
Library Director
DAR Library
National Society Daughters of the American Revolution
1776 D St., N.W.
Washington, DC 20006-5303
202-879-3313 (phone)
202-879-3227 (fax)
egrundset at dar.org
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[mailto:genealib-bounces at mailman.acomp.usf.edu]On Behalf Of Bob Velke
Sent: Tuesday, June 20, 2006 2:58 PM
To: genealib at mailman.acomp.usf.edu
Subject: [Genealib] Rebinding
I wonder if anyone has a suggestion for a bindery that provides good
service at a reasonable price? The East Coast would be better and
Balt/D.C. area better still.
I use a good service for leather bindings but I need one for less
elaborate
"library" bindings.
Do any large libraries have a bindery in-house?
Thanks.
Bob Velke
Archive CD Books USA
www.ArchiveCDBooksUSA.com
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Message: 12
Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2006 08:07:55 -0500
From: director at perry.lib.ok.us
Subject: Re: RE: [Genealib] Genealogy questions asked at the reference
desk
To: Librarians Serving Genealogists <genealib at mailman.acomp.usf.edu>
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Hello once again, everyone.
One of the most difficult things to remember about carrying out
genealogy reference at a "straight" reference desk is that many times,
those staff do not have complete specialized training in the field. All
reference librarians and reference staff should be able to answer a
core set of reference questions concerning the general nature of
genealogy and the particular resources located at your institution.
They should also, as a rule of thumb, have the contact information for
your local genealogy society or historical society in their "fast dial"
numbers, just like they do the county courthouse or whatever other
contact information customers typically ask for. As well as at least
passing familiarity with the top 10 non-computerized genealogy
resources you offer.
Even though genealogy is a specialized field by definition, there is
still a lot of latitude in dealing with how to integrate a more
generalized reference librarian into an understanding of key points
that their customers will ask about.
As far as key questions and resources, there are both universal and
area-specific resources, of course. Training on commonly used websites
such as Ancestry and HeritageQuest is a given. Genealogy, for both good
and bad, is increasingly computer oriented. Your customers will expect
and demand that there is a certain level of technical sophistication on
the part of your reference staff, in things such as printing census
images, knowing how to search databases, etc.
In the same way, proficiency on computer searching in general becomes
important. Being able to help customers successfully locate genealogy
society websites, free online resources, and other referral points will
put the customers at ease as well.
The biggest and most important thing I think a good librarian who
handles genealogy reference needs is perspective. Family is very
important to these customers, or they wouldn't be attempting to do
research. There needs to be a sensitivity to the issues that customers
may be dealing with in their searches. For example, a person might be
trying to find a long lost brother, a favorite aunt that went missing,
etc. Genealogy reference shares a lot, in spirit, with the help funeral
directors give. They help you make plans for the recently departed, and
serve as a gateway into that process. A good genealogy reference helper
will assist you (normally) with the not so recently departed.
I hope these thoughts and my perspective help you frame your
understanding of what you will be teaching your class. As a former
genealogy librarian who maintains an active interest in the field, I am
heartened that you are doing what you can do to justice to the
complexities of genealogy reference in your teaching.
Jeffrey J. Courouleau, MLIS
Head Librarian
Perry Carnegie Library
302 N. 7th Street
Perry, OK, 73077
Ph: 580-336-4721 or 1-866-336-4721
http://www.perrypl.okpls.org/
----- Original Message -----
From: Lynette Jones <Lynette.Jones at cityofcarrollton.com>
Date: Tuesday, June 20, 2006 7:20 pm
Subject: RE: [Genealib] Genealogy questions asked at the reference desk
> My library has a genealogy room, but no dedicated staff for it,
> either. Patrons ask the reference desk staff all kinds of things
> pertaining to genealogy.
>
> Please remind your students (and we should remember this
> ourselves) genealogy is not a secret society or anything obscure.
> One should treat these questions as they do any questions--listen,
> deteremine exactly what patrons is asking, search the library's
> catalog, and go from there.
>
> thanks,
> Lynette
>
> Lynette V. Jones
> Information Services Supervisor
> Carrollton Public Library @ Josey Ranch Lake
> Carrollton, TX 75006
> 972-466-4814
>
> ________________________________
>
> From: genealib-bounces at mailman.acomp.usf.edu on behalf of
> Elizabeth Clemons
> Sent: Tue 6/20/2006 4:24 PM
> To: Librarians Serving Genealogists
> Subject: RE: [Genealib] Genealogy questions asked at the reference
> desk
>
> Dear Connie,
>
> I am a reference librarian at a public library in Indiana. Our
> library has a local history/genealogy room, but no full-time
> librarian who staff the room. As such, we often get genealogy
> questions at the reference desk. Be sure to mention that one of
> the most interesting aspects of reference work is the variety of
> questions we can answer for patrons. Sometimes even the most
> mundane question (in our opinion), when answered can make
> someone's day.
>
> I tend to get quite a few technical questions. For example,
> patrons want to know how to use the microfilm machines and usually
> want to print as well. We also get requests for obituaries, vital
> records (birth, marriage and death). I refer the patrons to the
> county health department for information about vital records.
> Patrons are also curious about HeritageQuest and Ancestry Library
> Edition. We offer training for both of these online genealogical
> resources.
>
> Hope this information helped you.
>
> Take care,
> Elizabeth Clemons
> Reference Librarian
>
> ________________________________
>
> From: genealib-bounces at mailman.acomp.usf.edu on behalf of Connie
> Kuntz-Thorsen
> Sent: Tue 6/20/2006 3:43 PM
> To: genealib at mailman.acomp.usf.edu
> Subject: [Genealib] Genealogy questions asked at the reference desk
>
>
>
> Genealogy questions asked at the reference desk (hope this isn't a
> duplicate post) -
>
> Hopefully as librarians in the field you might be able to share
> your expertise. I am teaching a genealogy reference course this
> summer and since I am not in the field can only give the students
> the "academic" view of genealogy research. Would you be able to
> share questions commonly asked about genealogy at the reference
> desk? Do you have any books/websites/etc. that you constantly
> recommend? Any obscure sources? I'd like to give them questions to
> help them discover what they may be faced with as reference
> librarians dealing with genealogy. If you have any suggestions you
> could offer I would greatly appreciate it.
>
> Thanks for your help.
>
>
>
>
>
> Connie Thorsen
>
> Associate Professor
>
> St. John's University
>
>
>
>
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Message: 13
Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2006 09:17:13 -0400
From: "Larry Naukam" <lnaukam at mcls.rochester.lib.ny.us>
Subject: RE: [Genealib] Genealogy questions asked at the reference
desk
To: "'Librarians Serving Genealogists'"
<genealib at mailman.acomp.usf.edu>
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As we do have a separate genealogy room, we have our specific sites. They
would be Ancestry.com and Heritage Quest on our 4 dedicated computers. This
is because we do not allow internet access in the genealogy room - right now
we are having a major problem (police here every day) with myspace and the
police being called to deal with obstreperous young people.
As "free sites" that patrons can access from home we suggest
Familysearch.org (with the caveat that it is contributed and unverified
data), ditto for Rootsweb, the GenWeb sites, Cyndislist (I am partial to it
because I met Cyndi when she had 400 links). Obscure sources? Well, depends
what a patron is seeking. Sites in foreign languages specific to their
interest (http://www.genealogienetz.de/genealogy.html is one that I think is
good), as is googling the towns that they are looking for (which means that
if that town is online, they can write to it). One patron found a small
German church that was online, write and received a response with
information. We also use Google Earth to see where places are and
essentially to see if their grandpa's house is still there!
The sites are whatever you can find that is appropriate to their search
other than the collective sites. One thing to be aware of is that there are
sites out there which are advertising themselves as far more than they
really are. What you get for your money isn't really worth it. I also advise
them to seek out and read comments on sites like
(http://www.genealogyblog.com/). There I read about a proposed project, and
eventually wound up writing a chapter for the book. And this last site had
good references to interesting items. Lastly (and I realize tat this is
getting long and starting to sound like paid adverts, which they are not),
patrons can subscribe to online newsletter for free (like the ones from
Ancestor) or others with modest amounts of cost, like Genweekly.
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Message: 14
Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2006 08:26:02 -0500
From: "Brannan, Joyce A." <jbrannan at uwa.edu>
Subject: RE: [Genealib] Question about copyright.
To: Librarians Serving Genealogists <genealib at mailman.acomp.usf.edu>
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http://www.copyright.gov <http://www.copyright.gov/>
Joyce A. Brannan
Technical Services Librarian
University of West Alabama
Livingston, AL 35470
205 652-3677
________________________________
From: genealib-bounces at mailman.acomp.usf.edu
[mailto:genealib-bounces at mailman.acomp.usf.edu] On Behalf Of
Dlunow at aol.com
Sent: Tuesday, June 20, 2006 5:31 PM
To: genealib at mailman.acomp.usf.edu
Subject: [Genealib] Question about copyright.
I am sure one of you knows, how long a copyright on a book is good.
So, how long?
What has to be done to get a copyright?
What has to be done to keep it in effect?
Thanks,
Diane Lunow
Stagecoach Library
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Message: 15
Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2006 09:31:12 -0400
From: "Rhonda Stoffer" <rstoffer at marion.lib.in.us>
Subject: [Genealib] Ancestry announcement
To: <genealib at lists.acomp.usf.edu>
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http://abcnews.go.com/Entertainment/WolfFiles/story?id=236498&page=1
Ancestry is celebrating the completion of the 1930 census index and
offering a free 3 day trial of the 1930 database through July. Nice
article on abcnews.com about ancestors of several famous people.
Rhonda Stoffer
Head of Indiana History and Genealogy Services
Marion Public Library
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Message: 16
Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2006 08:47:37 -0500
From: "Brannan, Joyce A." <jbrannan at uwa.edu>
Subject: RE: [Genealib] Genealogy questions asked at the reference
desk
To: Librarians Serving Genealogists <genealib at mailman.acomp.usf.edu>
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Become thoroughly familiar with all this site has to offer.
http://www.familysearch.org <http://www.familysearch.org/> A common
mistake people - they will say something to the effect, "my family isn't
Mormon so the church can't help me." The Mormon church collects ALL
records of any genealogy value. True, the IGI and ancestry file are not
to be relied on, but they provide clues. I liken them to a map drawn by
a cub scout. But there is much more available from the Mormon church.
This is a free, complete online course for beginning genealogists
http://261.byu.edu <http://261.byu.edu/> .
And, of course, http://www.cyndislist.com <http://www.cyndislist.com/> .
Common questions? 1. Why don't you have all the birth, death,
marriage, probate, etc. records for your county? Where can I find them?
2. I've come all the way from (wherever) to look at your records. Why
can't I get into the archives? (Our website clearly states that
appointments are recommended because a librarian may not be available.)
3. I need your slave records. (We don't have any.)
Obscure sources? 1. Historical societies. 2. Local library archives,
especially uncatalogued materials.
Joyce A. Brannan
Technical Services Librarian
University of West Alabama
Livingston, AL 35470
205 652-3677
________________________________
From: genealib-bounces at mailman.acomp.usf.edu
[mailto:genealib-bounces at mailman.acomp.usf.edu] On Behalf Of Elizabeth
Clemons
Sent: Tuesday, June 20, 2006 4:24 PM
To: Librarians Serving Genealogists
Subject: RE: [Genealib] Genealogy questions asked at the reference desk
Dear Connie,
I am a reference librarian at a public library in Indiana. Our library
has a local history/genealogy room, but no full-time librarian who staff
the room. As such, we often get genealogy questions at the reference
desk. Be sure to mention that one of the most interesting aspects of
reference work is the variety of questions we can answer for patrons.
Sometimes even the most mundane question (in our opinion), when answered
can make someone's day.
I tend to get quite a few technical questions. For example, patrons
want to know how to use the microfilm machines and usually want to print
as well. We also get requests for obituaries, vital records (birth,
marriage and death). I refer the patrons to the county health
department for information about vital records. Patrons are also
curious about HeritageQuest and Ancestry Library Edition. We offer
training for both of these online genealogical resources.
Hope this information helped you.
Take care,
Elizabeth Clemons
Reference Librarian
________________________________
From: genealib-bounces at mailman.acomp.usf.edu on behalf of Connie
Kuntz-Thorsen
Sent: Tue 6/20/2006 3:43 PM
To: genealib at mailman.acomp.usf.edu
Subject: [Genealib] Genealogy questions asked at the reference desk
Genealogy questions asked at the reference desk (hope this isn't a
duplicate post) -
Hopefully as librarians in the field you might be able to share your
expertise. I am teaching a genealogy reference course this summer and
since I am not in the field can only give the students the "academic"
view of genealogy research. Would you be able to share questions
commonly asked about genealogy at the reference desk? Do you have any
books/websites/etc. that you constantly recommend? Any obscure sources?
I'd like to give them questions to help them discover what they may be
faced with as reference librarians dealing with genealogy. If you have
any suggestions you could offer I would greatly appreciate it.
Thanks for your help.
Connie Thorsen
Associate Professor
St. John's University
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